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To receive any Declarations and advise Members accordingly.


There were no declarations of interest.



Medium Term Financial Strategy: Council Fund Revenue Budget 2020/21 pdf icon PDF 309 KB

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(a)       That the Committee endorsed the Education and Youth efficiency proposals for 2020/21; and


(b)       That the Committee endorsed Education and Youth cost pressures recommended for inclusion in the budget for 2020/21.


The Strategic Finance Manager presented a report on proposed budget efficiencies and cost pressures for Education & Youth pending the completion of ongoing work on corporate finance options and resolution of the Welsh Government (WG) budget.  WG had recently confirmed that they would publish the draft Welsh budget on 16 December with the Provisional Settlement being published on the same day.  Completion of the budget setting process would be a role for Council at its meeting in January-March.


The Chief Officer (Education & Youth) outlined the proposed Portfolio Business Plan Efficiencies, as detailed in the report and explained that budgets had been reduced as much as safely possible in order to protect school delegated budgets.   


Councillor Patrick Heesom raised concerns around any increase in the working assumption on Council Tax and felt that it would be unacceptable to raise Council Tax above 5%.  He suggested that further efficiency options be explored and that Members be provided with portfolio expenditure plans in order to better analyse and understand portfolio budgets.  He also asked for further information on the pressures caused by deficit school balances.


The Strategic Finance Manager explained that no additional portfolio efficiencies would be sought and there had been no new requests from Members to look at new areas of efficiencies.  The Education Finance Manager explained that a significant budget pressure on school was the introduction of the Additional Learning Needs (ALN) Bill as this required additional resources for schools to support pupils with ALN.  She also outlined the pressure on school budgets following the Teacher’s Pay Award which would not be fully funded.


In response to questions from Mr. David Hytch, the Chief Officer explained that the efficiencies identified within the Integrated Youth Provision Service did not mean the loss of an officer post and that the additional funding identified for the Youth Justice Team would assist in the strengthening of the management structure with the appointment of a Senior Manager post.


            In response to a question from Councillor Tudor Jones around the actuarial review of the Clwyd Pension Fund, the Strategic Finance Manager explained that the review was nearing completion.  It was anticipated that there would be a reduction in the amount paid by the Council of around £2m.


            Councillor Andy Dunbobbin referred to the challenges being faced by secondary schools who currently held deficit budgets and asked if schools were being challenged and supported in exploring if further efficiencies could be found.  He also commented on the ‘Mockingbird’ programme which he said was a good example of strengthening provision in a financially efficient way.  The Chief Officer confirmed that schools were challenged and supported and that regular meetings for schools experiencing financial difficulties were held.  She outlined the Licensed Deficit Agreement for schools with deficit budgets and reported that a review of this Agreement had recently been undertaken with a revised version recently being circulated to schools.  It was agreed that a copy of the revised Agreement be circulated to the Committee following the meeting.


            Councillor Tudor Jones  ...  view the full minutes text for item 34.


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(a)       That the report be noted; and


(b)       That the Committee support the on-going work being taken to request additional funds from Welsh Government (WG) to address the repairs and maintenance backlog.


                      The Chief Officer (Education & Youth) presented a summary of progress on performance within the Council Plan at the mid-year point of 2019/20, relevant to the Education & Youth Overview & Scrutiny Committee.  The report was an exception-based report and concentrated on areas of under-performance, with the Chief Officer providing a detailed update on the following areas:-


·         Access to sanitary products in schools; and

·         Limited funding to address the backlog of known repair and maintenance works in Education & Youth Assets


Welsh Government (WG) had announced additional funding to provide re-usable sanitary products, and therefore a change was needed during the procurement process.  This had been addressed and it was anticipated that the target would be met by the end of the year.  The Committee were aware from previous discussions of the risks associated with the reduction on funding to schools and the impact this had on the repairs and maintenance budget.  Representation were being made by the Leader of the Council and Cabinet Member for Education and the Senior Manager, School Planning & Provision for additional funding to be provided to Local Authorities to address repairs and maintenance in school buildings. 


            Councillor Heesom questioned why sections of the Ambitious Council theme of the Council Plan was being reported to this Committee.  In response, the Chief Officer advised that during the review of the Council Plan for 2019/20 it was felt that the 21st Century Schools Programme should sit within the Ambitious Council theme and therefore would continue to be reported to this committee.  The creation of a single joint Archives Service between Flintshire and Denbighshire County Council, as presented to the Committee at its last meeting, also sat within the Ambitious Council theme.


Councillor Dave Mackie referred to the action for teaching staff receiving quality professional development through the self-evaluation system which was showing a ‘yellow’ RAG status and asked why this status was ‘yellow’ and whether a progress update could be provided.  In response the Chief Officer reminded the Committee of the introduction of the new National Curriculum for Wales which would be implemented by 2022 and explained that the action to support teaching staff remained a risk to ensure the standards at schools were protected.  GwE had been provided the majority of the training and all Flintshire schools had responded positively and were progressing well with training through shared working.  It was suggested that an update report be provided to the Committee towards the end of the summer term to highlight what work had been undertaken.


Councillor Mackie also suggested the following changes the actions and risks shown within the appendices of the report:-


  • (CP) Policy change agreed by quarter one and implementation of a revised and sustainable policy – action title needs to be clearer;
  • (CP) Measured performance using new and meaningful performance measure – action and comment needs to be clearer; and
  • ST214 Failure to obtain grant funding – risk title needs to be clearer.


It was agreed that the Facilitator provide this feedback to the Performance  ...  view the full minutes text for item 35.


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(The meeting started at 11.00 am and ended at 12.04 pm)